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墨者图腾

Yes, tanks are neccessary for terran to do any sort of damage. Guardians can be countered by wraiths though so it's kinda do or die. It centers around one question: is terran prepared or not? If he is zerg can lose very quick, that's the problem.

I disagree with you that dropships aren't so useful on smaller maps. In my opinion dropships only work as a surprise tactic anyway, e.g. you cast a few irradiates, sacrificing a couple vessels. At the same time you send in 2 dropships and destroy whatever you can in a short period of time. Then zerg will have to clean up his bases and at the same time stop any sneak attacks from somewhere in the center. This is one of the most dangerous tricks that beats even "flawless" zerg users. Another trick is to keep one dropship empty, def matrix on this fake dropship and send it in so zerg wastes his scourges, then force him to pay attention somewhere else or just wait for an attack and send in your fresh & fully loaded dropship(s) at the same time.
So as you can see the idea is to confuse the hell out of zerg when and before you use dropships, what counts most is that zerg isn't prepared enough.

Because of all these cheap tricks gosu zerg users like to defend prematurely with a few lings. The only way to beat that is to have 2 fully loaded dropships with a couple firebats in them. Usually terran can't drop both of them unless he sends in a fake dropship first. If he loses one of his filled dropships he can't beat the zerglings.

墨者图腾

Yeah so true, but that's the basics of all strategy so actually that's why one player loses and the other one wins, thanks to fog of war. But in the late game zerg can afford to have 12 zerglings in his mainbase, some decide to stick with 2 sunkens instead. It's a question of preferance but my point is that the longer the game goes the stronger your defenses must be because if you don't pay attention to that you'll end up losing to simple harassment. For example in TvP it's better to build 12 turrets in your main base and have a vessel patrolling outside and lay masses of spider mines inside just so that you can be sure no recall will completely mess you up. Another possibility is to build a few more goliaths than usual and have them patrol in the back. Since you can kill all observers you can just wait until protoss sends an arbiter in, kill it and then use these goliaths offensively. The same goes for drop in TvZ, you can have 12 lings defending your main in time with potential drops and if you manage to destroy a dropship you can add those lings to your offenses.
Or you try to be quick enough and react whenever you see a drop coming.
It's a crazy game SC is.

a2_lovely

这图ZVT好打,开始Z一般都会养成先拉OVERLORD向两边飞的习惯 T的8BB+机械化乃至机械化在这个图是家常便饭,如果实在怕对方搞小动作的 就拉个农民跟OV一起把地图上可以野造VF BB的找找.小狗一条找VF 另一条最好放在自己2矿后面 有些人特别喜欢挖开你后门偷溜类车 如果对手双开 用的是机械化 Z可以依靠建筑学把最初的那辆类车卡在桥外 第三个OV出来的时候 直接飞在桥头看雷车动向 27人口的时候省出2个人口出口水 在2本升好之际吧3矿开出去 左右两边的矿一般不是有雷车就会有布雷 OV提前放在矿点 开3矿 拍下龙塔以后可以顺势出半队-8个口水 几个守3矿 几个守主矿(有人喜欢空投雷车) 宿主的速度有钱就升 毕竟排雷 把T再没有TANK前憋回去 都靠他.龙塔好了以后就升1F(1F好了马上2防不要挺 期间造BV把口水一攻升了)3矿好的差不多了 口水可以控制在2队半到3队 给龙留些位置 TANK多就出多龙 大脚多就出多些口水 龙是什么时候都要至少2队的 不然点坦克都不利索.接下来就仁者见仁智者见智了 我用很多次这种打法 最容易挂的是碰到那种半路出家的T 大脚+若干坦克推Z3矿 不断蓄兵 仗着1G升好的特别快 Z打的那叫一个难受。

bbgkiller

ZVT被T WS起来了就没法搞了。。。

bobo01vip

zvt 来说Z很难打，但是也不是没得打。。。。基本上是拼后期功力的一张图，关键是左右高地的两块矿的控制。z能睬就多踩点，因为你要不睬的话后期都是T的，不要存钱，就是用牛狗lucker蝎子拖，打经济战。要是T去打你的高地，你就用房子装小狗去空投，我看火星每次都是这么打的。
初期需要防的是T的野8bb，雷车骚扰，雷车加scv溜后门，空投雷车。
打T野8bb就是要9d探路，12d造2矿在T家找下兵营，没有兵营的话拉几个农民出来，一般这个时候要是rush的话，scv已经开始造地堡了，要是坚决rush的话就主要用2条路截下T的后援机枪兵。还是能防住的，防住后就在2矿造一个地堡，就不怕雷车了。
升级2级基地后提速一队小狗放在家里放下空投，在菊花处放一个房子看scv是不是来踩矿挤雷车。在2矿造一个刺蛇塔和地堡形成建筑学防止雷车进家。2级基地好了造飞龙塔。要是T用双机场隐飞的战术是我最喜欢应对的打法，因为无论是出刺蛇防住后一波反打还是2个基地出飞龙都让T非常难受。
大多数的T还是会用机械化然后2矿猥琐的打法，要是遇到这种T，那就出蝎子打后期吧，拼后期的功力了。一般后期空投也能取得一定的效果，飞龙的防记得一定要升级，因为把机器人打没马上转一波飞龙能占不少便宜的。
总之Z这个图4gas不好开所以对Z来说不好打，关键还是实战的经验对比赛的胜负有很大的影响。

bobo01vip

zvp的话，Z前期好打但是要打不死P的话，后期P就牛逼了。
有一个小技巧是91哥常用的就是，初期o9d，然后出lucker挤p的菊花，成功的话也很好用。
老婆来了，不写了，下班去看建国大业啦～～～

Bellona

特別適閤ws的地圖

foreverytz

好多抢sj的
我只评价一句：syp  是星际文盲

寒冰小CHU男

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syp

顶啊