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Draco Poland. December 18 2008 00:25. Posts 23

You know what? Go ** your self idiot and think twice before you call me a
"cry-baby".Both you and guys from gg.net are **ing morons who don't know a
shit about this case. Am I a **ing PGL's executor who should put the gun to
fosken's head or am I just a StarCraft player who wants his prizes? Hm? Think
for a while genius?

People from gosugamers.net don't know a shit. I _never_ agreed to transfer the
debt. PGL did it by themselves even though I didn't want to do it this way. I
don't know how about China but in Europe, or at least in Poland, that's **ing
bad manner to make such a debt transfer. I had nothing to do with Fosken's
participation/sponsorship so I haven't seen any **ing reason to connect me
with his debt. PGL owed me 430 Euro. Even though I didn't agree they just
ignored it and made a promise that the money will come to me in a short time.
And what do we have today? 15 months passed behind, Fosken paid only 100 Euro
to me and he's not willing to pay anymore because the sponsor left him. PGL

never paid even one cent to me. So in conclusion they still owe me 330 Euros. I'
m not going to run after Fosken because his debt towards PGL is NOT my **ing
bussnes. I should have received my prizes+transporship/visa costs and I have
received only 100 euros. What else I can do? I've sent mails, tried to contact[1;36m [m
with PGL orgas so many times and now I'm writing these posts. I'm not going to
leave it like this no matter if it's 1, 330 or 1000000. I won't let them
to treat me like a piece of shit.

Draco Poland. December 18 2008 07:27. Posts 23

Sorry man, are you calling me a lier? Didn't I say how it looked?
....
Do you really think that I would be so dumb that I would agree to get the money
from a Fosken kid instead of PGL organisation? Moreover do you really think
that I would like to divide the whole sum into two smaller amounts (100 from
PGL+330 from Fosken)? And after all do you really believe that I would rather
waste time for more conversations with Fosken and his team instead of just
saying to PGL "No I want my money from you, here is my bank account"? I have
copies of all the e-mails connected with the case where I clearly say that I do
not want it to be done this way. They simply didn't give me any choice. Even
though that whats the difference? That's so obvious that they should pay me the
missing money no matter what.

And no it doesn't seem like the only one who owes me money is fosken's sponsor.
The facts are clear: PGL owes the money to me. Fosken's sponsor owes the money
to PGL. They haver never had the rights to involve me into this debt shit.

And at the end - I wouldn't waste my time to write post with lies on this
forum. As I said before I don't care that much about that 330. That's just a
matter of honour.
Draco 波兰 2008年12月18日00：25分 post 23
你知道什么？Go
你自己是个白痴，请在叫我哭泣的孩子前多想两遍。不管是你还是
gg.net的人都不清楚这个倳件。我是一个pgl 的执行人，要把枪对着
fosken 的头或者我只是一个星际选手，只想要这个奖品。
怎么了？想一会，天才？

在gosugamers.net上的很多人，一点狗屁都不懂。我从来都没有同意
这种转移债务。pgl自己这样做的，我一点都不愿意。我不知道中国
的做法是怎样的但是在欧洲却不是这样，至少在波兰不是这样。这时
一种很坏的品德去做这种债务转移。我和fosken 没什么债务联系，
和pgl与我的债务关系更是扯不上有什么联系。pgl 欠我430 欧元。
即使，我不同意这样，但是他们（pgl）却不以为然，说我很快就会拿到钱。。
然而，到了现在，出现了什么样的情况？15个月就这样过去了，
fosken 仅仅支付了我100欧元而且他不愿意再付了。pgl 没有给我
一分钱。所以pgl仍然欠我330欧元。我没有去向fosken 要钱因为
他和pgl的债务和我没关系。我应该得到我的奖品和运输签证费用但是
我得到了100欧元。除了这样我还能做什么？我已经发了邮件和pgl
联系了无数次，我不想就这样不管，不管这笔钱是1元，330元还是
1百万。我不会让pgl把我当成一个傻瓜。

Draco 2008年12月18日 07：27 post23
不好意思，这位先生，你说我是骗子？你没有看上面我说的吗？
你认为我会这么笨，向fosken要钱而不是pgl？
或者你认为我应该区别对待这两笔小钱？（100到pgl+330从fosken那儿）。
很明显他们（pgl）应该支付我这笔钱。

这个不仅仅是谁欠了我的钱的事了。这个事实就是，pgl欠了我的钱。
fosken的主办方欠了pgl的欠，pgl没有权力让我卷入这场债务。

最后，我不会浪费时间在这里写谎言。
而且，我不在乎这区区的330欧元。
这仅仅是一个信誉的问题。

ps：
Draco 也太不明白中国的思维方式了
外国人对于人情这个东西看的很淡
很简单，A要B 带钱给C ,而B 把钱给黑了，没有把钱给C
但是A 却认为，钱给了，不关自己的事了
C于是乎不满

我觉得PGL的办事方式也确实太2了，出了这种事，也和国内一样潜规则
这个可是国际友人啊，注意国际形象
在法律上来说，A要把钱确实交付了C，才算是真正履行了债务
A要承担B黑钱的危险
所以，A 要先给付C 的钱，然后再向B 要求赔偿
债务的转移必须要经过C 的同意，而且要由A来承担不能给付的风险

几万都给了，一点小钱有意思吗？别人可是大牌，老在外面这么说，影响恶劣啊我也觉得PGL做的很不地道。

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