中国dota现在就像韩国星际一样

Benny

以前我觉得，电竞领域，中国war3做的已经很虎了
现在和dota相比，差距甚远
宅男多就是真心虎啊

小西

,,,,,,,,,,,

zhaoyun123

Giggs

不是俄罗斯很吊吗

田田蓝心

dota在中国完全就是国民运动

岁月无心

全民运动啊，当然威武了。

lucifer520

我有个女同事也dota

BatManForever

我有个女同事也dota
lucifer520 发表于 2011-3-28 17:23

有锤子吗

甜橙

小巴 这么快就喜欢 XTX 了啊

BatManForever

小巴 这么快就喜欢 XTX 了啊
甜橙 发表于 2011-3-28 17:25

是啊

Benny

不是俄罗斯很吊吗
Giggs 发表于 2011-3-28 17:07

俄罗斯的vp那都是NNNN年前的老黄历了，vigoss  那一拨人
那时的dota还是群雄割据，什么MYM  SK VP，现在都浮云了

国内顶尖的几个队随便拿一个出去都是横扫没悬念

光有成绩也就算了，诞生了各种大神，什么AAA   PIS  ZSMJ，到最近大火的法拉利430、zhou（虽然在国内火很久了）

随便贴个国外的评论吧


选自CCM夺冠新闻的评论


#2  [DotA]  [Philippines]  homezick  11 hours ago （菲律宾）
congrats CCM hope to see you stomping DK

恭喜CCM，希望看到你们碾压DK


#8  [DotA]  [Mongolia]  knot.sz  10 hours ago （蒙古）
sad for lgd, really good drafting and teamwork hope to see more result against ur country teams

对LGD表示遗憾，希望在以后对抗中国队伍的比赛中还能看到你们优秀的选人和团队配合


#15  [DotA]  [Singapore]  relixLenLen  10 hours ago （新加坡）
430 and zhou is like lebron and wade!

430和Zhou就像勒布朗和韦德！


#17  [DotA]  [Denmark]  mikuku  10 hours ago （丹麦）
they look power rangers in their shirts

他们穿着那套T恤看上去很像恐龙战队



#23  [DotA]  [Europe]  CZ_NooB  9 hours ago （欧洲）
I don't understand why LGD.sgty didn't meet in the finals. Anyway CHINA again didn't lose even one game to non-CHINA

我不明白为何LGD没有打进决赛（⑨，LGD撞了CCM）
不管怎样，中国队没有输任何一场比赛给外国队


#24  [Human]  defik  9 hours ago
zhou is unmatchable picker
only his countrymen can outpick him sometimes

Zhou是一个无与伦比的BP者
只有中国选手才可能在BP上战胜他


#25  [DotA]  [Europe]  naroblas  9 hours ago
"CCM's road to success was not an easy one having to take on some really formidable opponents. "
u kidding me? ccm stomped everyone

（貌似是针对新闻中的一句）“CCM的夺冠之路并不容易，他们遇到了一些旗鼓相当的对手”
你开玩笑？ CCM碾压了所有队伍（言下之意包括SCYTHE和LGD）


#28  [Random/No race]  [Europe]  tft1623  9 hours ago （欧洲）



#34  [DotA]  [Other]  mr.jas  9 hours ago
in my opinion, however, lgd shouldve met ccm in the final. i dont understand why that did not happen, and thats why i think lgd were pissed. but well played ccm, and all teams who participated in icity! enjoyed watching many games through tobis casts

在我看来，LGD应该和CCM在决赛碰头
我不明白为何这没有发生，而且我认为这是LGD觉得愤怒的原因
然而CCM确实发挥出色，当然所有参加这次比赛的队伍都是！
很多场有Tobi解说的比赛都让我非常享受
（Tobiwon，Gosu上知名解说，据说能把一场无聊的比赛说的引人入胜）


#36  [DotA]  [Malaysia]  Kty-  7 hours ago （马来西亚）
Scythe.sg could have won if they have time to train I guess players outside of China dont have as much time to train because they're not professional full time players like the chinese. anyway nice win to CCM.

Scythe如果有更多训练时间有可能会赢，我猜中国之外的选手没有足够的时间去训练，因为他们不是像中国玩家那样的职业全职玩家
无论怎样，CCM赢得漂亮


#47  [DotA]  [Canada]  onmyredeye  2 hours ago
#36 you have a funny but stupid comment. Both CCM and Scythe are professional dota teams, so they should play and TRAIN like pros. However, if Scythes don't train as much as other pros( like you mentioned, Chinese pros), then they have no one but themselves to be blamed.

（针对上面那条）你做了一个又好笑又蠢的评论
CCM和Scythe都是职业队，所以他们应该像职业选手一样训练
然而 ，如果Scythe没有训练的和其他队一样多（如你所说，中国队），那么他们除了抱怨自己之外谁都不能抱怨


#46  [DotA]  [Other]  Xirqon  3 hours ago
LGD simply isn't good enough anymore, I doubt EHOME can seriously mount a challenge either. The obvious thing to do would have been for them to merge to form a powerhouse. I predict 0 wins for LGD this year.

LGD已经不如当年，甚至我开始怀疑EHOME能否对CCM造成足够的冲击
而唯一明显的事情是CCM的五人组合起到了很好的化学反应
我预测LGD今年0胜（毒舌啊！）


#51  [DotA]  [Malaysia]  X-Espada  2 hours ago （马来西亚）
i seriously think after this match HyHy will train Invoker and Yamateh will train weaver..
their pick is like last SMM..camon guyz,it's 2011 allready..

我十分认为在这次比赛后hyhy会操练卡尔而Yameteh会练习蚂蚁
他们的选人就像去年在SMM上一样，拜托伙计们，已经2011年了..


#52  [Night Elf]  [Other]  kazegami  1 hour ago
#40
So obvious.
EU teams need greedisgood or -gold 100000 to get any chance against Nirvana, CCM, LGD, EHOME, Scythe, or some asian team.
Congrats CCM

#40提到没有欧洲队伍可以和中国队抗衡了
很显然，欧洲队伍需要greedisgood或者-gold 100000才能有机会对抗Nirvana, CCM, LGD, EHOME, Scythe,以及一些亚洲队伍
恭喜CCM


#54  [DotA]  [Philippines]  Snrs.zR.sntS  1 hour ago （菲律宾）
Good Job CCM. Really flawless moves.
but practice hard and more, Scythe sure will bring a hell lot more of fight next time they meet Chinese teams

GJ CCM，确实完美无瑕的表演
但是如果Scythe勤加苦练，下次遇到中国队时一定会给他们造成极大的麻烦


#59  [DotA]  [Philippines]  metaxa0124  52 minutes ago （菲律宾）
Congrats CCM! Having gone down the hardest lane in the tournament, having to face IGS(well they gave CCM more of a fight than the other teams) and LGD. Ferrari is just GOD after that. People shouldn't forget how xiao8 was very valuable this tournament, being an all around player and doing his part at that.

恭喜CCM！他们走了本次比赛最艰难的一条路线，这条路上他们必须面对IGS（他们对CCM造成了比别的队更多的阻碍）和LGD
Ferrari现在已经成神了
另外，大家不该忘记小8在本次本赛的巨大作用，作为一个全能选手，他很好的完成了自己的工作


#61  [Random/No race]  [United States]  Azarkon  40 minutes ago （美国）
这篇很长，当然，只是一个美国玩家的看法而已
但我认为他的看法比较专业，所以摘录下来

As someone said, CCM should really be thought of as the new Nirvana.cn rather than the new Ehome.
如有些人所说，CCM可以被认为是一只新的NV.CN而非新EH

The core of CCM is strong. Zhou is a veteran carry/captain as everyone knows, and apparently has one of the best b/p these days. 430 is a master of mid-solo and is up there with the likes of YaphetS, YYF, and X!!. Xiao8 used to be the star carry of Dream and is also an incredibly skilled player who knows how to play carries and semi-carries very well. Then you have DDC, a Wind Runner specialist, and SanSheng, an old veteran support player. This gives CCM the flexibility to run a 3 carry/semi-carry strat one game, and a 1 carry/4 support strat the next, if they so desired.
CCM的核心非常强大，Zhou是一个大家所熟知的经验丰富的Carry和队长，而且很显然这次比赛他的BP是最棒的
430是新一代的中SOLO大师，就像Pis,yyf和呆
小8曾经是Dream战队的明星Carry，而现在也是一个极佳的技巧型选手，能在C或者副C位置发挥出色
然后还有风行大师DDC，以及辅助老手Sansheng
这给了CCM一个相当灵活阵容，如果他们喜欢，他们可以先打一盘三核战术，再打一盘4保1

With this kind of flexibility, it is really hard to outpick CCM. For almost every major hero, they have someone who can play it. 430 can play AA, Invoker, SF, Storm, Lion, etc. Zhou can play just about every hard carry, as well as Doombringer and Lone Druid and Visage. Xiao8 can play Pugna, Nerubian, and most semi-carries/hard carries. And then you have SanSheng and DDC who can play most of the supports from Venom to Lich. It's really hard to prevent a team like that from getting a good balance of heroes.
有了这样灵活的阵容，这就很难在选人上击败CCM
对于近乎所有主流英雄，他们都有合适的人选去使用
430可以用冰魂，卡尔，影魔，蓝猫，LION等等
Zhou几乎可以用所有的主核英雄，同时还能用末日，德鲁伊和死灵龙
小8能用遗忘，蚂蚁，以及几乎所有副核和主核
然后Sansheng和DDC几乎能把从剧毒到LICH的辅助玩个遍
要阻止这样一个拥有均衡英雄使用能力的队伍，实在太难

Combine this with very solid team play and timings and you have the makings of a winning team.
综上这样一个团队实例加上临场的节奏控制，这必须是一个冠军队

Compare to the old Nirvana.cn, I think CCM is actually even more flexible. YaphetS had some limitations with regards to which mid heroes he could play superbly, while Banana, Dgc, and Insence were basically all support players who couldn't really play semi-carries/carries. I think the one thing CCM might be missing is a great Puck player, which Banana was when he was in shape. But given the current version there are plenty of alternatives to Puck, so CCM isn't really at a disadvantage for having lost Banana.
比起旧版的NV.CN，我认为CCM更具灵活性
Pis能玩的非常好的中路英雄数量有一定限制（这个玩家的确比较了解中国DotA）
而Banana，Dgc，和Insense都偏辅助，不能很好的担任打核的位置
我认为CCM唯一欠缺的就是一个优秀的Puck使用者，而曾经在NV.CN这个位置由Banana来担任
然而在目前版本来说有太多的英雄可以代替Puck，所以CCM就算没有Banana也没有多大损失

之后两位中国玩家补充了关于Puck的问题
#63说了马来玩家之前不知道为何中国玩家喜欢选冰魂蚂蚁卡尔，而中国玩家也不理解马来和欧洲为何依然青睐Puck，而现在事实证明了一切
#64则说了其实中国还有很多优秀的Puck选手，只是因为时势造英雄，职业选手不得不使用时下好用的英雄，这也是为何现在突然有这么多卡尔高手的原因


总体来说，这次的评论大多是祝贺CCM的夺冠以及对CCM的看好
CCM众人的实力得到了极高的肯定
特别是430已经成为Pis之后的第二个走出国门的世界级偶像
如果你有空去录像区，里面更是有诸多对于430膜拜的评论
当然也不得不说，中SO位的确是一个早就明星的地方，就像足球的前锋

其他的评论主要是来自马来玩家对于Scythe的鼓励
一些世界范围内的LGD Fans对于LGD新方向的建议
以及中国玩家解释时下中国的DotA圈趋势和战术现状等

MartiniBlanco

遭不住啊

AAA这个ID，想起来就逗，哈哈哈，很无奈

1000

燕舞影

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那美克星

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猎鹰赌场

中国war3做的已经很虎了

法布雷加斯

那当然 而且长得比我帅的打得没我好 打得比我好的长得没我帅

dengyi123456

有点想试着玩玩的冲动啊！！

wanwan

菜成马的草经理。。。。