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作者: anomaly 时间: 2012-9-22 14:44
标题: 屌丝刚刚看了普罗米修斯，这剧情狗屁不通啊
不说里面的科学家如何莽撞无脑了, 简直不能看电影人描写的任何跟科学沾边的东西

就说机器人 David 为啥要毒杀 Charlie?

如果说是为了做实验，这实验的潜在风险会不会太大了? 搞不好整个船都报销了

其他所有David 的行为也都没有逻辑，神秘而又不能解释

似乎他懂外星人，但是又把自己送过去被干?

作者: anomaly 时间: 2012-9-22 15:06
发现国外网友把我想说的都说了，看来不应该在八达发这个......................

I'm really sorry, but this a major disappointment.

No, I didn't expect miracles or something close to the original Alien. I've been following Scott for 30 years - and it's clear that he has been on the decline since Gladiator and Black Hawk Down.

I liked a few of his later movies like A Good Year - but most have been rather flat and uninspired.

One thing I've noticed, is that he's gotten increasingly complacent with his own "point of view" in terms of historical facts and how things work in reality. It's like he has a complete disregard for plausible motivations or factual information about how things work.

Case in point - there's a scene in the movie where a certain character has to have an operation performed on her body - and it involves slicing directly through the skin and muscle-tissue of her abdomen. After the procedure, she's simply "stitched together" by metal clips in like 3 seconds - and with a bit of local anesthetic, she continues to move and jump about with some moaning. Ehm, you CAN'T have any kind of normal movement with your muscle tissue completely severed - and there was absolutely no healing involved. Just one of a series of ridiculous events.

The plot is entirely juvenile and cliché stuff with "profound" questions like who created us. For some reason, the beings who created us also want to kill us - and it seems to involve incredibly elaborate genetic engineering that also happened to kill most of them in their remote "lab facility". They're CLEARLY much more powerful than we are - and they could just bomb the hell out of us, or do it in a thousand simpler ways. But no, they seem to want to utilize excessively elaborate and dangerous genetic modification or infestation - that they can't even control.

They also like to record recent events with some kind of holographic recorder device that is unable to render clear images, only some cool ghostly images that I bet Scott loved to play with. But they're quite flexible in how they let you play recordings of their security procedure - so you can access their systems without effort.

Characters are void of personality and growth, they're REALLY stupid - and they like to freak out for no reason, and they like to stay calm and playful when there IS a reason - like when encountering a nasty looking cobra-worm - an alien - for the first time in history.

Among these faceless people - we have some willing to gleefully commit suicide by ramming an alien ship, because they like their captain, and they're required to do so because he "can't fly worth a damn" - despite him being the primary pilot hired by a billionaire to do nothing but fly the ship.

We have a religious scientist who concludes that she's found our creators, based on: "It's what I choose to believe".

Then we have the very same religious scientist look at an alien "head" they brought back - and she notices some strange growth on it. She then spends 2 seconds thinking and concludes that this is obviously some kind of "foreign cells" (impressive deduction, I must say) - and she decides to stimulate the cells with electricity - just to see what happens. No research - no caution - no nothing.

We have people who decide to open the door to their ship, seemingly with no thought process, despite having just faced complete chaos by extremely hostile alien forces - because one of their crew mates seems to be lying in front of the door. This while other crew mates have just been taken over by some kind of alien infestation.

Then we have the boyfriend of said religious scientist (a douche) who decides that the air in an alien environment is safe to breathe because his device tells him it is - and he immediately removes his helmet. A classic Hollywood scientist moment, and clearly there's no need to worry about biological contaminants in a place like that.

This movie is FULL of this kind of utterly implausible behavior and random decisions.

It has a couple of "for effect" gore scenes - but Scott manages to include ZERO tension along with them. As a result, they're mildly disgusting - but they have no lasting effect whatsoever.

The "aliens" that are a part of this movie all look like plastic - because of overly smooth and pale skin. They look like Lovecraft creatures without a much-needed paint-job.

We have a horribly predictable, pointless and wasted twist involving Guy Pearce and a certain other cast member.

We have an android, well-acted by Fassbender, who seems to be fully random in his decisions and motivations. Few actions made sense in any context - not to me anyway.

The music was overwrought and didn't fit with the mood of the film, and it seemed like one theme being repeated endlessly. A surprise, given Scott's usual flair for good music.

I think Lindelof is a complete and total hack - who only got the job because he was the "yes-man" who could match Scott's ego. This is pretty obvious in interviews - where Lindelof always manages to publicly kiss Scott's behind.

1 Star for Fassbender's performance.

1 Star for the amazingly detailed visuals.

1 Star for how the above combine to form the excellent beginning.

Now, it's just a matter of leaning back - musing over a thousand different people coming up with a thousand different explanations - each being the "correct" interpretation of this deep and thought-provoking masterpiece.

Going by the IMDb rating, I can do nothing but stay mesmerized by how efficient it is to rely on the "Emperor's New Clothes" effect and let hype do the rest. Stay real Scott, Lindelof and Hollywood.

作者: 黑友 时间: 2012-9-22 15:07
本身就是个烂片。

作者: NoT 时间: 2012-9-22 17:12
太长而且看不懂

作者: hysteria 时间: 2012-9-22 17:18
是的比如经常黑客各种流弊！

作者: fengquan 时间: 2012-9-22 17:32
地球人研究工程师生化人研究地球人

作者: 月之海 时间: 2012-9-22 18:15
我也一直对这点想不通
毒杀那个科学家是什么意思。还有后来女的怀上了要冷冻女的。难道想带怪胎回地球？
那机器人的怪异行为难道想为拍续集做铺垫？

作者: 潜规则 时间: 2012-9-23 15:39
原创内容水晶 +2

作者: r868 时间: 2012-9-23 16:13
关于机器人不能解释的事情，不是有续集么

作者: 矿工 时间: 2012-9-23 16:17

月之海发表于 2012-9-22 18:15
我也一直对这点想不通
毒杀那个科学家是什么意思。还有后来女的怀上了要冷冻女的。难道想带怪胎回地球？
...

是的要毁灭人类

作者: 911forever 时间: 2012-9-23 16:29
本帖最后由 911forever 于 2012-9-23 01:27 编辑

其实就是异性前传，我的感觉这个电影的主要思想就是人类的起源。人认为被“上帝"就是电影中的巨人创造出来，是有意义的，其实是一个偶然，是被遗留在地球上的人的DNA演变进化来的（电影开头死的那个巨人），然后就出现了一个问题，创造一个生命有

什么意义？电影中也有回答，机器人问科学家，为什么要创造出自己，科学家回答”Maybe because we can" 其实创造出机器人是没意义的，只是因为人类能创造出机器人。于是机器人赌气（不知道是不是赌气），就喂毒药给科学家，创造出了异性这个新的物种。

机器人是全片的中心所在，他一开始看不起人类，觉得自己比人类更高级，所以有了他喂毒药等等行为，所以有了他看见巨人苏醒时，那种好像是找到同类的表情，但是巨人毫不犹豫的拧断了他的脖子，他又开始想念起人类来了，所以他知道女科学家没死以后，流

下了高兴的眼泪。电影最后，女科学家明知道人类的产生可能毫无意义，但是还是决定去寻找虚无缥缈的意义。总体来说是对人类起源的思考，以及异性来源的交代，还不错的片子

作者: master.f 时间: 2012-9-23 16:31
请不要侮辱狗屁

作者: ssseeexxx 时间: 2012-9-23 17:03
机器人代表老板的意志就是那个老头
老头来这个星球是为了永生
发现外星生物当然要找人做实验看看能不能延长生命
然后那个帅哥说可以为了科学研究付出一切
所以。。
个人看法

作者: Z_shaPT 时间: 2012-9-23 17:05
看你们说的我都想去看了这什么情况

作者: fengquan 时间: 2012-9-23 18:26
看不懂的去看异形1234 特别是1 2

作者: [CUGL].eyeS` 时间: 2012-9-23 19:00

911forever 发表于 2012-9-23 16:29
其实就是异性前传，我的感觉这个电影的主要思想就是人类的起源。人认为被“上帝"就是电影中的巨人创造出来， ...

有网友黑了导演的邮箱，得到的续集剧本其实是这样的：

我们把创造者称为工程师族。
工程师族极为古老而科技发达，他们的乐趣是在宇宙中创造一个个的新种族，自命为神。当他们对自己的一些造物不满意或者失去兴趣以后，就派出异形去消灭之。而异形本身就是工程师族创造的一种生物兵器。但也许是因为工程师族派了太多的异形到各个星球上去杀戮，以至于有的异形在特殊的环境条件下进化成了更加凶猛的、有智慧的生物群体，反而对工程师族展开了反噬。由于异形族甚至可以进行空间航行，所以工程师族被异形追赶得到处跑，整个文明摇摇欲坠。

工程师族有一支造物是铁血战士族，这也是一个很特殊的种族。当初工程师族派异形去毁灭铁血战士的星球，没想到却被强悍的铁血战士们抵挡住了，消灭了所有来侵略的异形。铁血战士具有强大的肉搏能力和还不错的科技，可以单挑几只异形。他们自诩为高贵的战斗种族，甚至专门饲养一些异形用于培养自己的年轻战士。每个铁血战士成年的时候都要参加一场异常残酷的成年礼，在特定的竞技场里和异形厮杀。其中一个古竞技场偶然地被设在了地球的南极。

人类是工程师族的一个年轻造物，然而人类是不论外形还是文明走向都和工程师族极为相似的一个种族。在抵抗异形的战争中日渐走向末路的工程师族心生悔意，认为人类文明再这样发展下去，早晚也会和亿万年前的自己一样创造出类似异形的种族给宇宙带来灾难，因此很急迫地想毁灭人类。这就是电影里工程师族十分想毁灭人类的原因。但女主角伊丽莎白在片尾制止了那个工程师的行为，并且驾驶工程师族的飞船，想飞到工程师族的母星与之谈判，为人类争取活路。

伊丽莎白在飞去之前，向地球发出了一串警告信号，叫地球人千万不要再来这颗不祥的星球。但不知为什么，也许是地球上飞速发展的科技使得人类格外自大，也许只是因为按捺不住好奇，地球仍然派遣了一艘新的飞船来追寻这颗行星。

伊丽莎白与工程师族会面后，工程师族由于惭愧和自顾不暇，答应不再毁灭人类，并让伊丽莎白把这个消息带回给地球。但她的飞船在返航时不幸遭遇了异形族的巨大飞虫——利维坦之母。伊丽莎白被异形的首脑——被称为“主宰”(overmind)的异形所俘获，由于发现她曾经怀孕过异形，所以异形试图同化她。但overmind没有想到同化后的伊丽莎白即将成为他的毁灭者和替代者。

而人类的第二艘飞船来到普罗米修斯行星，寻找到了伊丽莎白的男人的烧焦尸骸。从尸骸中的活性细胞DNA中将其克隆复活。谁也不知道这个克隆者未来将会以jim raynor之名闻名整个宇宙

以上都是我YY，如有雷同纯属巧合

作者: littleK 时间: 2012-9-23 19:00
我擦
终于看到有人说屎了
草直接看哭了
啥特么片啊

作者: gdhgood 时间: 2012-9-23 19:34
本帖最后由 gdhgood 于 2012-9-23 19:34 编辑

16楼把星际融到故事中很合理。工程师在星际里就是那个神秘的造物主族。

作者: 山上下来的 时间: 2012-9-23 20:58
就是那那男的做实验，我觉得是想看下这个所谓武器的威力，维兰德老头子下的旨意，因为异形的基因如果用来研究的话，有巨大的价值
回顾下异形前几作，特别是第一集，就会有所了解，这个公司自<普>之后，就一直想拿异形做研究，在背后使坏，搞阴谋
类似的就像生化危机里的保护伞公司，还有合金装备里的美国炡椨，无处不在的阴谋

作者: littleK 时间: 2012-9-23 21:06

911forever 发表于 2012-9-23 16:29
其实就是异性前传，我的感觉这个电影的主要思想就是人类的起源。人认为被“上帝"就是电影中的巨人创造出来， ...

关键是在男科学家侮辱机器人以前他就已经决定把那有机物放到香槟里了啊而且男科学家明显是郁闷的气话机器人非得趁这时候得瑟得瑟去问人家这点说不大通啊

作者: littleK 时间: 2012-9-23 21:10

[CUGL].eyeS` 发表于 2012-9-23 19:00
有网友黑了导演的邮箱，得到的续集剧本其实是这样的：

我们把创造者称为工程师族。

222...和星际串起来了

神族发现控制不了虫族之后遗弃了虫族结果虫族捕获了可以在宇宙中穿行的生物获得了可以在宇宙中生存的能力这点感觉还是有点bug啊~

作者: 诺依 时间: 2012-9-23 21:55
法斯宾德演得还是不错的

作者: spirit 时间: 2012-9-23 23:28
剪切了不少有些地方感觉莫名其妙等着完整版吧

作者: 国妓米兰 时间: 2012-9-23 23:29
请不要侮辱狗屁

作者: 青丘之山 时间: 2012-9-24 01:22
16楼是亮点

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